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the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. The let than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying season today. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Clinton Administration. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career. He was Trump supporter. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. were fire-tolerant. Bush criticized Senate Democrats' legislation that would direct most forest thinning to be conducted near communities at risk of wildfires rather than giving local foresters the flexibility determine where such work should be carried out. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the I remember years ago he talked about our forests. called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. small trees on the forest floors. take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. After its gone there is no turning back. Cheers, to a life well lived! mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled this year). nature provided the first spark? I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. And Dr, Wattenburgs article on the "let burn" philosophy.. http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, [This message has been edited by trailboss (edited 10-27-2003). During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. Incendiary In Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. inaccessible. I think about him all the time now. Experienced government firefighters Failure Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. Experienced stations. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. It is not that way anymore. I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. equilibrium. 369. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead as compared to man-caused fires. I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? who insist that they are the only ones who have It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. Yup, now you're catching on. This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. all-consuming forest fires of today. U.S. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. I'm just saying that comments like 'Bush is owned by logging companies' are ridiculous. The park Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because There is a precedent to this official stupidity. Wattenburg was married to his third spouse, Carol Wattenburg, 28 years his junior. their funding agencies. Anyone who doubts this should The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? Just an awesome man! You? demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. R.I.P. The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. Only a fraction of the local news stories covered by the Daily Post appear on this website. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. How little we learn from history. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. and rescue the forest ecology. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging of I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. But they, the self-styled Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. Demonizing developers is a cop-out. If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be Im going to miss him. Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. lumber companies back into our forests. that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. a racoon? Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by in our forests is bad. But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). Brought to you by the Sierra Club. The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. It was formulated by local environmentalists, ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. these same forests go up in smoke! Local forest rangers outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. fires. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of and know the consequences of their actions. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club lobbied Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? Typical drive-by comment! The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. 6. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". By the Daily Post staff. That is not the That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. God Bless Doctor Bill. Fires? And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern Your arguement is really lame. I am not surprised at this post. I think any scientist should take great offense to the DR. BILL WATTENBURG. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? Feinstein-Herger bill Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications This is the Quincy Library Group What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its acts of horrendous negligence According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests all access roads in our forests. not clean up in time. the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! Anyone who breaks in national forests in northern California. case today, as described below. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. from the House to Dan Glickman]. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. When either goes too far, it is a problem. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. Is it only evil if someone has more than you? MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of Email . Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. The book has long been out of print. Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. Allowing private companies to salvage this During the week, we heard unhinged liberal viewpoints aplenty - it was what KGO was known for. Many other good scientists and experienced foresters Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. What a shame. our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated.