I prefer live view for wider lenses to an external viewfinder. The wider width of the M240 has never bothered me but the new M10 does look good a little slimmed down. An electronic viewfinder (EVF) with a higher resolution provides a sharper image, producing a view comparable in quality with the one displayed on an optical viewfinder. In the real world, I was making the M9 work for me in terms of low light shooting, as such, I have literally never found a single issue with high ISO noise from the M262. I love the files the camera produces, the size and weight is just right and operationally it couldnt be much simpler. In a world where newer camera models are expected to have more features not less, the Leica M262 doesnt really fit into the normal upgrade path camera manufacturers offer. In one of his editorial pieces in Amateur Photographer he applauds this philosophy. Ill have to dig out an online manual , I got an 262 you have to press SET after choosing- only with 3 button possiblewith latest software (2021). The sensor is not the same, by the way. You'd be wise to buy the best/latest digital body you can afford and leave a healthy budget for the best/most lenses possible. I did find a custom LR preset that helps a lot, but it would be nice to have natural skin tones straight from the camera. And if you are not interested in movies or EVF, as a.Noctilux said, you can ignore them. I missed his musings in AP. Battery power, or battery capacity, represents the amount of electrical energy that a battery can store. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-banner-1','ezslot_12',185,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-banner-1-0'); As it turned out, I would find more advantages with the Leica M262 when I got it. Although I know right from the gate that my M-P Typ 240 wont get as much use as my new heart winning M9-P, it will however keep me from having that inevitable internal debate of owning just one old or new M body. The settings I use (format and manual or auto lens designation) pop up first on the main menu and with 2 clicks both actions are completed. This page contains all hands-on, detailed Camera Reviews that have been published at Photography Life. The M9 and CCD sensor. Im not trying to justify myself I certainly wouldnt to trolls the point is simply that I spend my money on something I enjoy. On the other hand, if you do describe your GAS in terms of Leicas, and suggest a Monochrom is the kind of thing you forget in a cupboard, well. If you intend to use lenses wider than 28mm or longer than 135mm Liveview and EVF are very useful, also macro photography is much easier (essential with the new 90mm macro lens and macro adapter) or if you need video. But even then, its not close to other modern cameras. I appreciate your thoughts on the 262 v the 240 as I am thinking about setting an MD body. I use the 1.4 magnifier with my old 90mm tele-elmarit and an external viewfinder with my voigtlander 21mm f1.4 both work just fine for me. Yura, I still use both with other M along. It was at this early stage that I noticed the first thing that has continued to make me scratch my head throughout the time I used the camera. Id mounted the lens to my M262 and was pondering how I was going to get used to shooting a 35mm lens again in such a short period []. But nope, they included a hardly useful flourish, that as you say, looks like it was thought up but a marketing department. I use it for mostly personal/travel type shooting, with the occasional casual paid shoot. I'm not sure if it's ok to show a snapshot of the LFI article. M240 v. M246 v. M262 v. Monochrom 246. He mentioned that he drives older vehicles in order to be able to afford just the kit he wants.Agreed with John Smith. Really thats been the beauty of the Leica M262 for me for the most part, its done almost exactly what Ive needed it to. Itd be a waste of time when you can go and find other reviews that no doubt do high ISO comparisons with other brands of cameras etc. Bringing up the live-view display gave me what appeared to my taste to be a quite unpleasant representation of the world in front of the camera. By continuing to browse our site, you agree to our use of cookies. I admit, Im a bit of a snob with stills cameras. Manage Settings A timelapse shows a long passage of time sped up. I didnt discover this, despite that being how the M9 works. That alone justifies the decision to buy. It was that feeling that having less kit would do me good This became the excuse I needed to change up to the M10. The M9 was a simple digital rangefinder with limited features and menu options, the M262 has even less in the menu and a slightly improved user interface. I have a Fuji X100f and stripped down the OVF/EVF data and shoot in manual with manual focus only to give it a M2 feel. Finally, a digital camera that truly feels like a good old analog Leica. I was wrong! If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. The Leica M240 has done me proud whilst the M262 has been away, though the experience has not be without a couple of surprises, so I thought Id write a little bit about what Ive found.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[728,90],'35mmc_com-box-3','ezslot_9',179,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-3-0'); First off, I should probably say that this isnt going to be a proper review Ive written so many reviews about Leica rangefinder cameras and their subtle differences that the idea of writing my thoughts about every facet of this camera just doesnt appeal at all and thats despite this one having more to offer than any that Ive shot before. Content contributor - become a part of the worlds biggest film and alternative photography community blog. (Free 3-day trial)Subscribe here. The Leica M-D Typ 262 was released in 2016 and is already rather difficult to find. Nice review.I bought a m262 this year when one of my pensions surprisingly came out.I wanted1] a digital leica m2] no video3] no live view4] no EVFBut i like to sometimes review a pic when i am out and about.The 262 is perfect for me and i love it.with the m-e 240 being announced i have noticed that used 262 cameras have already dropped in price so its possible i can buy a dream 2nd body.Meaning another 262. This is exiting news in so many ways that I will now test your patience for a few minutes in trying to explain it. When using the M10 in aperture priority mode I dial the EV down to -0.7. Using it in this factory, a space where I needed to be aware of the timing of things that were happening around me, it just clicked for me. As I talk about in my M9 review, the screen on that camera really is very crap, so this did feel like a big enough deal to make the jump. As I said at the end of that post, I then found myself in with a big chuck of the dreaded GAS. Hello Hamish,Great writeup. Selling the M262, a camera that I purchased for its pure simplicity; and keeping the Z6, a camera that I purchased for its many features (including live view, a hybrid camera with fantastic video capabilities including full frame 4K, compatibility with my Profoto strobes, owning quite a bit of Nikon F-mount glass, auto-focus, etc.)! The M240 is a great camera that produces gorgeous images but you are undoubtedly going to love the M10. We think it rises to the challenge. All features aside, my lust was triggered by the drastic reduction in size. I was once very happy with my M9. That said, I dont shoot Leicas for rapidity.Start Up. With regards to minimizing my digital camera gear, my thinking was simple. Hes written some good books, too, some with his partner, Frances. So its not a financial burden to have it around, and selling it wont yield me that much cash, and I have no desire to sell it anyways since its my favorite M of all time that still serves some legitimate purpose. This page is currently only available in English. BECOME A MEMBER to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMbqwh98qO5wWowtQjIK8ig/joinEXCLUSIVE PRESETS FOR IMAGES CAPTURED WITH LEICA CAMERAS:. I find it very quick. As I mentioned in my recent post about the M240, the stripped-back interface was exactly reason . Ive read all too often from M10 owners how much they miss an M9 or M8 variant because of the simplicity and CCD image quality. A personal taste thing of course, but youd think that a Leica camera would have a screen that was at least mostly accurate to the end photo? I know youre right, I often talk about the bullshit involved in the upgrade path but it has an iso dial! There is a slight sense that this camera isnt a major model it feels a tiny bit like theres a few too many buttons, and that the body of the camera is a little hollow, but in practice these things go unnoticed. Upload or insert images from URL. One of the advantages of live-view is the same as one of the advantages of rangefinder cameras they both allow you to observe the world outside of the frame. Id prefer to do this with the Leica as its the camera I use most often and so the battery is always charged with space on a memory card. I use along the two M240/262/etc. They've been even used in a documentary made by a friend of mine. p.s. Of all the mentioned digital rangefinders, I enjoyed the [], [] is a definite yes! Now, that update costs thousands of dollars. The Leica M262 feels to me like almost everything anyone could or should expect from a digital Leica rangefinder. Epson RD1 style I loved my RD1! Just because something new release does not mean the M9 or even the M8 lost theirs. Keep up the good words! Display as a link instead, The better screen, slightly improved interface and even fairly small things like the artificially lit frame lines introduced in the M240 made the the camera feel more mature. Controls feel well balanced and satisfyingly precise. Both should arrived this coming week and so I am getting very excited! Ive tried all of the digital M types and my heartfelt favorites are the M8 and M9-P (equally), then the Typ 262 in that order. Paste as plain text instead, A M262 is a friendly camera. I would still rather have the m10 over all the others though, but I definitely see you point. Its still inaccurate, but at least the photos look pleasant enough. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Upload or insert images from URL. The device is dustproof and water-resistant. Read full post here: I would have bought a 90 Macro lens if I had live view on the camera even though Ive already got a Nikon with 105 Macro. If tapping the top plate sounded a bit hollow: remember its aluminium not brass in the 262, Sure. I pressed the shutter button to take a photo and was fairly disappointed to see that the image the live-view screen had showed me was now captured as a photo. I have one for the M240 and dont use it that much but at times it helps with critical focus. Something about the idea that it had all these weird and wonderful features made me expect a camera that felt different. The Leica M [typ 262], or M262 for short offers what's best described as a stripped-back user interface. It usesa 24-megapixel CMOS sensor, a Maestro image processor witha near-silent shutter, and a quiet shutter-cocking motor. I have preview turned off too and use it like I do my M6. Either way, its the M262 that I want to keepif(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_18',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Though I must admit, this experience has had me thinking that an M10 would be better suited to me now. All of a sudden, the M10 held a lot of appeal. I completely agree about the thumb rest, adds more (in a bad way) than removing the screen takes away, in my opinion. More battery power can be an indication of longer battery life. They didn't say it's a different sensor, they said different technology. Dont get me wrong Hamish, if I didnt have to give the Taxman an additional sum equal to a Leica M10 last Spring, Id have been tempted! Looking forward to your impressions, cheers! Thanks. By The combination of the live view and the advantages I had begun to feel a physical ISO dial could bring to the table were then enough to have me wondering how much of my kit Id have to sell to change up to the M10. By Exphotog, A Love Affair With The Leica M-D 262 by Ong Sien Hong - 35mmc, Initial experiments with a Leica M10-P and a Nikon 35mm 2.8 PC Shift Lens - 35mmc, (Mis)adventures with a Minolta Himatic 7s - By Matt Evans, 5 Frames with the new Voigtlander Color-Skopar Vintage Line 21mm f/3.5 By John Scott, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews. Thanks for posting, enjoyed the images. The transport lever on the Leica M3. I love the colors from the sensor as a whole, but one thing I dont like is rendering of skin tones. I guess that how much I miss the live-view will define how soon, if at all, I start saving my pennies for a swap. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. All our Contributors have an ad-free experience for life.Sign uphere. Great review as always, I look forward to the M10 review I think the slimmer body size alone is a reason to upgrade, feel like a proper M body. With its excellent dynamic range, beautiful colors, and compact design, it won a lot of fans, but perhaps not . As such, it felt like itd be the perfect camera for me. Indeed, I am an m10 owner who misses my m9. I turned off automatic review and theres no chimping, and with an ISO dial I dont even need to use any buttons throughout a shoot. For compact cameras, a focus motor is usually built-in. Can you compare side by side, please? I have an M246 where just holding down the ISO button, turning the thumbwheel to change it then releasing does the job. Great pictures and very interesting. The Leica M10 's physical controls are logical, simple, and offer the right amount of resistance. Of course with these features comes a fairly significant increase in menu options too, though I must admit, I was surprised how simple the menu remains given the extra features on offer. Yes, it adds a Wi-Fi connectivity, which is something completely new in my workflow, but the overall experience is so much simpler. The colour differences between the two are due to slightly different colour handling in the camera and can be cancelled out completely by the camera profiles in LR. ins.style.display='block';ins.style.minWidth=container.attributes.ezaw.value+'px';ins.style.width='100%';ins.style.height=container.attributes.ezah.value+'px';container.appendChild(ins);(adsbygoogle=window.adsbygoogle||[]).push({});window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId,'stat_source_id',44);window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId,'adsensetype',1);var lo=new MutationObserver(window.ezaslEvent);lo.observe(document.getElementById(slotId+'-asloaded'),{attributes:true}); The fact is, I really like them as cameras, but largely speaking they just function for me. With sensor shift, the image sensor (rather than the lens) moves to counterbalance any vibration of the camera. This thing has live-view, and video. Because I only shoot raw, I dont need the white balance settings. You can get two M-Ps (old and new) for the same price as one M10. If you like aluminium choose the M262, if you prefer brass go for the M240. what a great text, and great pictures, thank you! It then required a short trip to camera-hospital in Germany. The view taken by some Leica users when the M240 was released was that features like live-view and video had no place on a Leica. Content contributor - become a part of the worlds biggest film and alternative photography community blog. At0.68 magnification itll be hard to push to 75mm without a magnifier eyepiece x1.25 or x1.4. In the run up to buying an M10 Ive been reading a lot of reviews, and have found the M262 is rarely mentioned in them. Basically, Im sold on live-view these days but, despite this fact, I didnt think it would appeal to me on a Leica. Any chance youre planning to do a write up on that Nokton 50mm f/1.2? Waiting for the fishy in the little dishy by Gil Aegerter, Lava Lizard on Marine Iguana by ZimmWisdom. A m262 is limited to the lens choice as it rangefinder view only. Hence, I literally could not give a single poop what Para thinks . Got a spare lottery ticket? Unfortunately, my business partner has also vetoed the idea of me selling both M240 and M262 to buy an M10. Its based on the body of the M240, but as Ive said, when it was released it was pitched as a more affordable stripped-back camera with less features. If not, moderators please delete this post. Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) A m262 is limited to the lens choice as it rangefinder view only. I wish I could afford him moreI often find myself agreeing with him too. You can post now and register later. Funnily enough, when searching to find out if I was the only one to notice this, I found this post on a forum where someone finds the same issue, but prefers the cooler screen of his Leica M240 to the later M-P version of the M240 which seems to have the same warmer screen as my M262. This has become a bit of a trend now, I buy a digital Leica, shoot with it for a while, decide to sell it for one reason or another, and then scramble to write about it in the final few days of owning it. This made me think; maybe I could get on with the video features too? It was the third major iteration of colour digital Leica M . Don't be one of those people who blows their budget on a body and can barely afford to buy a lens or two. The overall user interface of the Leica M262 turned out to be a bigger upgrade than I expected too though its still not been quite the perfect experience. I do use this feature fairly often as an alternative to using a screw in BW filter. To set it, you simply half press the shutter then jog the thumb dial. But, as someone who shoots, buys and sells a lot of different lenses, the bigger screen would definitely offer me an advantage Id be able to take photos and check lenses were calibrated properly etc. Functionalism be damned. It is a quick overview and specs comparisonLeica M-E Typ 240 vs Leica M typ 262====="Subscribe and Share" for more Videosht. Everything is very tactile. An electronic viewfinder (EVF) with a higher resolution provides a sharper image, producing a view comparable in quality with the one displayed on an optical viewfinder. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. 35mmc is a blog authored, edited and published by Hamish Gill featuring daily articles submitted by readers. For the M240, forget it. Unknown. A stereo microphone allows to record audio files or movies in stereo without an external microphone. I have both and haven't noticed any difference but I haven't done a side by side comparison. . No one ever uses video functionality of the240 anyways. Im really glad I ordered it, the best Leica M camera Ive ever used! If you want video and live view, get the 240. The smaller file size also allows quicker read/write speeds. I like Roger a lot hes written for this site before, and we chatted a fair bit around the time. The image on viewfinder of that camera is very warm yet when the images are loaded onto the computer they are less so. Theres been a couple of times when Ive picked the camera up one after using it in lower light and ended up shooting a whole loads of frames at a high ISO before twigging that the chosen shutter speed seems too high. I have had good luck with Sonys latest fast SD cards, improving this condition quite well. For me and my tastes though, the Leica M262 does feel like an advancement from the M240. True Leica again (after the M240), pure and sololy focused on the Photography essentials. . If live view/video is a don't care then buy the lower cost camera. The use of a CMOS sensor allowed Leica to include two key features that the previous M9 didnt have. I will stick with my film Leica for now. In fact, for this very reason the Leica M262 has actually presented me with the least inspiration so far. The entire camera feels built to last and like a well engineered tool in use. After the M11 released though, used prices of the M10 dropped and I decided to get one. Limited to 75 - 35/28mm. . Mostly because of the need for a screen that I allude to. I think it is a very cool and stripped down digital M camera that I purchased used to compliment my M3 (I use the M3 with a 50mm and 90mm lens). All our Contributors have an ad-free experience for life.Sign uphere. "MM-P""" Leica M Typ240MM-P Typ240 The Leica M (Typ 262) is a digital rangefinder camera announced by Leica Camera on November 19, 2015. Pasted as rich text. The even newer M-P Typ 240 purchase just opens up addtional opportunities of using a digital M as a multi-purpose tool. 3200-10,000 (I find this to be really handy for indoor family photos, which is essentially the only time I need high ISOs) the larger and brighter viewfinder the size (yes, one can really feel a difference) overall operational responsiveness to a much lesser degree: fewer buttons on the back of the camera, smaller red dot, more matte black finish. Actually, a large part of this is because they dont often inspire me to write about them whilst I own them, yet I hate to see them go without doing them the justice of sharing a few thoughts.var cid='8222364248';var pid='ca-pub-7054871687658000';var slotId='div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-3-0';var ffid=1;var alS=1002%1000;var container=document.getElementById(slotId);container.style.width='100%';var ins=document.createElement('ins');ins.id=slotId+'-asloaded';ins.className='adsbygoogle ezasloaded';ins.dataset.adClient=pid;ins.dataset.adChannel=cid;if(ffid==2){ins.dataset.fullWidthResponsive='true';} As I mentioned in my recent post about the M240, the stripped-back interface was exactly reason I went for the M262 instead of the M240 when I was looking to replace my M9. Image quality will be essentially the same. The WB white balance button is completely redundant by my measure. In case you're confused, the M240 was the camera that followed the Leica M9. The type of viewfinder that the camera has. You shouldnt be so hard on yourself, Pera. Have a read of this for tips. When moving from M9 to M262 Id not put too much thought into how much difference this would make to me, in practice though, this small change in interface makes a big difference to how the camera feels. What's the best camera for shooting sports and action? I hadnt noticed that it focused closer though. Find a comparison between different fujifilm x30 vs x100t. But the I needed a 21mm for crowd shots and discovered the live view is awesome for this. Of course, Id skipped the M240 and gone from M9 to M262 though surprisingly, the menu system of the M262 is even more stripped back than that of the M9. Of course they can, but you have them. In fact, apart from INFO button/screen which reports battery and SD card information, and the play and delete buttons, the ISO button and the menu it brings up is really the only part of the screen-based interface I use. (Leica M (Typ 262)), Unknown. https://www.dailycameranews.com/, ShakeSphere Portable Blender E-Lid review, Microsoft Surface Laptop 5 Review: A Solid but Unremarkable Upgrade. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. Interesting article as I picked up a used m240 at Christmas at a good price. More humble pie for me! I am looking to get into the Leica M systemhave been on various of the Leica Fora, discussing the merits of an M9 / M9P. Leica m240 sony a7sii . Survey: Third-party Lenses for Leica M-Mount , Umfrage: Dritthersteller Objektive fr Leica M-Mount . It has a better screen, live-view, no video and even has a ISO dial (like you might find on a Fuji). document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Continue with Recommended Cookies. Yes, the M240s menu is busier, but once I have the camera set up to my liking I dont really venture into the menu often. It depends on your needs. I use 3rd generation Sony A7 cameras with a cage and a big hand grip with a mic and an Atomos Ninja V external screen bolted to it. Ive had it for years and purchased it when M8s were at their lowest prices. The device is protected with extra seals to prevent failures caused by dust, raindrops, and water splashes. It uses a 24-megapixel CMOS sensor, a Maestro image processor with a near-silent shutter, and a quiet shutter-cocking motor. I did eventually get the 1.25 viewfinder magnifier to go with it. I've always wanted a Leica and was thinking of picking up a used M262 or M240 to replace my Fuji. I did the same thing Hamish, never having handled the M10. I know thats not a crime, I also know it has nothing to do with how much skill I have as a photographer. Changing from color to black and white takes a lot of menu meandering and I wish there was a way to place this setting into a favorites menu as in the M10 (I think). At which point I bought a stand-in M240 and I discovered the joys of live view on an m-mount Leica. Overall, I really enjoyed the simplicity of using the 262 which comes very close to the M3 experience in my opinion. More microphones result in better sound quality and enable the device to filter out background noise. Resolution is an essential indicator of a screen's image quality, representing the maximum amount of pixels that can be shown on the screen. without having to transfer the images to the computer first. Since most reviews are quite large in content thanks to extensive coverage, comparisons to other cameras and large sample images, they span across multiple pages for easier reading experience. It does this by digitally enhancing the image output. My M8 is still around for those who are wondering. The better the dynamic range the system captures a wider number of values from dark to light leading to more details in low and highlights. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_17',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Overall, these changes made the move from the M9 to M262 feel greater than the sum of their parts. Hi everyone. As mentioned, one of the big selling points Leica hung their marketing angle off when launching the Leica M262 was the reduction of menu options to 2 screens compared to the M240. Good thing, I don't need to upgrade further, as those are plenty enough for many years to come. The resulting image will have less quality than when staying within the native ISO range, but it can be useful in certain situations. A higher screen resolution provides a sharper image, making it easier to review your photos. Why torture yourself? Thanks for the insights Louis! The SET and the ISO buttons are much more useful though to be honest, I personally dont even use the stuff in the set menu either. This was a heretical change from earlier Leicas. I really have found it quite distracting to have an image preview thats different to what Im used to, especially since its both inaccurate and in a way thats unappealing to my tastes. Leica has used the button space on the rear of the camera that is used for live view in the Typ 240 to .
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