Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. You can now listen to full episodes of the podcast right from the app. Mr. Santillan walking into a federal courthouse in Santa Ana, Calif., during the 2018 racketeering trial against the Mongols. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. Testimony will help determine if Mongols get new trial. Santillan says he ran into Ciccone when he went to pick up some Mongols property that had been released after the trial. Join u. AboutPressCopyrightContact. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. 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"John told me that I have one year, one year," Santillan says in the call. if we Americanize the cartels that would make YouTube more entertaining, hurt Gore websites and save hundreds of thousands of lives. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. ). Then the conversation, which she was. Ciccone told him he was retiring. After testifying briefly in court Monday, Annie told Eyewitness News that her husband has never been a confidential informant and that she only sent the text message because she wanted to destroy him in the eyes of the Mongols. Testimony resumed for a hearing in which a judge will decided if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. He tells his side of the story in the ongoing drama to clear his name. On the stand, Mr. Santillan called the claims about his daily meetings with Mr. Ciccone an absolute lie. (He acknowledged encountering Mr. Ciccone by chance at a Starbucks near the courthouse once during the trial.). Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. **** IMPORTANT**** Check out the totally redesigned app!! In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. All rights reserved. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. He was ready, he said, to get treatment for his drug and alcohol addictions. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. "I love you, I love you," David Santillan says in the call. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. All rights reserved. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. In 2018, the club was convicted of. In my opinion, the only reason the government brought this RICO case was to take another run at the patch, having failed each time in the past, said George L. Steele, a lawyer for the Mongols who is handling a separate appeal in the case. "This was a lifestyle, a culture, and a way of life. Former Mongols Biker Club Leader Denies He Was Ever a Rat The Mongols Motorcycle Club allege that their former president David Santillan was a confidential informant during their RICO. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. One thing is for certain, you dont ever let people know your club affiliation over the internet. Judge Rejects Claim That Mongols Biker Club Leader Was a Rat, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/us/mongols-informant.html. The A.T.F. 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Nor do I believe that there would be, quite frankly, an acquittal in a second trial., Mr. Santillan, who led the Mongols for nearly 13 years until he was voted out of the club in July of last year, vehemently denied that he had ever betrayed the group. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. 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Lil Dave is the former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Get your Signed Copy of Brotherhood & Betrayal( shipping is included to the Lower 48 States only)- Shipping to Canada, Australia and Overseas please contact Chinadoll annredden2003@gmail.com Order Yours Now~! He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. One of the clubs defense lawyers during the original trial, Stephen Stubbs, testified that Mr. Santillan had told him during the trial that he was regularly meeting with Mr. Ciccone as the proceedings were going on, even as he was overseeing the clubs defense team. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. If MCs want to be seen as a club then stop all the violence, the general public can see through all the BS, as can those who are a part of this scene and want nothing to do with clubs. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. The Mongols claimed in their motion for a new trial that Mr. Santillan had an inappropriate working relationship over the years with the lead A.T.F. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. Anyone can read what you share. This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Former National Vice President of the T H U G Riders MC MOE CAPO MORALES. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, Mr. Santillan, who sounded drunk and sounded distraught, said to her. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. So lets talk about my response on this whole business and put it to rest The Mongols MC as a whole is an old club full of traditions and will get past this. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. agent. There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. This is the final statement on this because honestly it's mundane and boring. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. It wasnt the entire Mongols Nation that threw him under the bus but a few that fed creators who thought these people were representing the clubs voice. In the call, David Santillan sobs and says he wants to reconcile. "All I wanted to do was to tarnish his image," says Annie Santillan. The government, in its own appeal, is making another run at the Mongols logo, renewing an earlier request for a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the emblem. Yanny played a clip from a National Geographic show segment on the Mongols in court as evidence of their relationship. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Judge Carter conducted an extensive inquiry to unearth any evidence that Mr. Santillan had cooperated with law enforcement and acknowledged his difficulty in explaining away the contents of the video. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. Testimony will reconvene on Friday, July 22, at 7:30 a.m. LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. Now it's at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. At the core of the case was a video of a conversation between Mr. Santillan and his wife that she had passed on to members of the biker club last year, accompanied by a text message in which she told them that her husband had been a confidential government informant. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. However, Annie testified this week, saying she only did it to get back at her husband for cheating. The club supported all kinds of law enforcement functions, (This is a known fact) and the club didnt throw on a diamond until around 2017. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. agent on the case, John Ciccone, sharing inside information about the club in exchange for lighter penalties for various offenses. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. In June, he'll watch as. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video. "You're my everything, you're my ride or die, you're my everything. The birth of modern-day Mongols came in 1969 in Montebello and the club's website pulls no punches about its beginnings as well as its vision. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president was a confidential informant for the ATF. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. In this Oct. 21, 2008 file photo a Mongols' motorcycle gang member vest is displayed during a news conference in Los Angeles. It is the First Amendment issues associated with the case that are most important, Judge Carter said on Thursday, and whether the government has the right to seize control of a trademarked emblem as a way of eliminating a groups ability to operate and recruit. READ ALSO | Was head of OC biker gang a 'rat'? Sherdog.com is a property of Mandatory Media, LLC, monitoring_string = "5200e30beed193e5fe31f8bccc2bdcbf". "I've never cooperated in any way, shape or form.". The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. The video was recorded in June of last year, when, Ms. Santillan said, she felt scorned because her husband had been unfaithful and after she had obtained a restraining order against him for what she claimed was physical abuse. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. David told me that they had been meeting every day at Starbucks before trial until Judge Carter told them not to because a juror saw them together, Mr. Stubbs testified in August. But then he began to talk about now-retired ATF agent John Ciccone, the lead agent on the racketeering case. (You must log in or sign up to reply here.